. >> and i said this, mcconnell no longer wakes up and goes to sleep thinking i'm going to make this guy a one-termer and obama no longer thinks -- >> i hope you're right. >> he doesn't need to be reelected and mcconnell, the republicans don't need to keep him from being -- so both sides are in a position, that's what you're saying. >> joe, neither you nor i are as rich as governor romney so we can't bet $10,000 but i bet $1. >> wait a second. that's a cheap shot and i am nowhere near as rich but i'll bet you, i don't have to double what you're worth to get to romney. >> i don't -- >> see! >> ralph we cut you off before, you said there were three bs, the first was big, the second was balance. >> the second was balance between taxes and here again, let's talk a little bit about balance first, okay? because you have this massive schism between what's balanced. if you look at 2:1 or 3:1 or 4:1. >> in terms of spending cuts versus revenue raised. >> spending cuts versus revenue raised, 2:1 to 3:1, sounds like a massive gap. if it's 2:1, it's two-thirds expense reductions and one-third ta